Rapping with a fellow kottu-blogger last week, the subject got to responses in the form of comments and tags – and this guy gets a whole lot of them due to the popularity of his blog. The comments, for the most part, he said are engaging, interesting and complimentary, with few, if any, ’negative’ stuff that is usually done more with the intention to provoke than to inject an interesting observation or start any meaningful discussion stemming from the post in question.
The discussion went on to the kind of mentality it takes to be intentionally insulting or to spew meaningless profanity at some bloggers by folk that obviously dislike them, either for their respective views or on a more personal level. I’m sure most of us have read some of the unbelievable crap that is put out there in the form of comments and tags with the intention to hurt or anger the recipient, with what appears to be innuendo, false presumptions, taking parts of the post out of context, or just plain viciousness. Humour (albeit, as twisted as the author) is also sometimes employed to get the insults across.
I guess it takes a special type of person to hide behind the cover of a pseudonym or other virtual barricade and hurl shit around at whoever takes his or her fancy – for whatever reason. As is usual in most matters, the original cause for any action – in this case, abuse or insults – must have something to do with the ego, as it is unlikely that viciousness is aimed at random. I discussed some aspects of this phenomenon earlier, but that had more to do with ego and the part it plays in bloggers expressing themselves, sometimes their most personal affairs, for all to see, rather than the part it plays in abuse.
The way I see it is that the compulsive urge to abuse, insult, or attempt to demean, is a form of psychological distress manifesting itself in the convoluted logic that allows itself to do so. And, in all probability, a response is what is sought – in order to feed the perverse urge and sustain it. So, like some of the smarter bloggers who refrain from responding to the crap, the best reaction would be to non-react.
In the end, however, I guess we should feel sorry for these folks, as the dirt they dish out must fill their heads a whole lot – and that can’t be very pleasant for them.


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March 26, 2008 at 7:59 am
Darwin
In nearly all the examples of ‘abuse’ in the blogosphere, at least the SL one, I think the main motivation is a deep-seated inferiority complex that’s manifesting itself via comment/tag abuse. It’s actually quite interesting to observe from the sidelines (I say sidelines because I’m no longer the recipient of said abuse since err I’m conveniently out of the aggregator loop
). There is usually a pattern that can be observed with these ‘abusers’ – he/she was probably bullied quite a bit in school by the so-called popular kids, didn’t have much real-life friends, found solace on online forums and IRC etc. I guess that bitterness manifests itself now, when these people find a common cause (target) to pick on. Most of them try so very hard to be ‘different’ from the rest of the herd just because they don’t want to be seen as conforming to the stuff that the rest of the bloggers get upto. No longer are they outsiders looking in, they finally belong somewhere.
I disagree about feeling sorry for people like this though, I think they create these problems themselves, and it’s difficult to empathise with people like that.
March 26, 2008 at 8:14 am
javajones
Darwin – Girl you are so true to form!
But hey, there are other areas of disagreement that brings on the shit – like political views, mostly, in this case. And these may not be catalysed by a childhood trauma.
The point to ponder would be the intensity of the emotion brought about by the need to defend a position (in the case of political points of view, for instance) that manifests in the ‘hate’ thing.
March 26, 2008 at 8:39 am
RD
I had a similar discussion with someone about the very same subject only a couple of days ago. Small world!
I don’t want to sound like a broken record, as I have said this many times before, but my biggest issue is with the anonymous negative commenters / taggers or whatever we can call them. If a person wants to leave a comment on my blog I try to always publish it, the only exceptions being spam and comments that badmouth a third party, things that have happened a few times.
But, when people comment anonymously and are just “slagging off” I feel that it’s cowardly, like throwing stones at a person but while wearing a mask so they don’t know who is actuallu doing it.
Of course, many could say that bloggers like me, you and Darwin are cowardly because we hide behind our blogging names anyhow. But I guess these pseudonyms have become identities in their own right, plus we don’t hurl insults around left, right and centre. Well, except for the ones that Darwin does anonymously of course!
March 26, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Pan/Thanatos
Now this is a topic I truly love to discuss. I’ve looked into this type of behavior quite a bit as a forensic psychology student.
Darwin is right on the money. An inferiority complex has a lot to do with it.
The number one reason for the behavior you described is a mixture of spite (being wronged in the past) and an over-arching ego. Typically these people can be spotted by their highly impulsive and manic behavior or writing style (dyslexia is a common sign).
These people are very much conditioned to not having their voice heard or having their ideas marginalized when speaking on a logical, “human” level.
So, their mind begins to deny the logical and hangs on to bits and pieces of convenient information (regardless of the original context).
If you’ve run out of ammo, wouldn’t you use whatever you can to fight the battle?
Typically these people are victims themselves and are trying to pass along their misery onto others.
March 26, 2008 at 4:34 pm
javajones
RD – ‘cowardly’ in this instance is not having a pseudonym, rather it is the manic urge to spew venom from a position that is virtually inaccessible. What a fucking waste of time!
Pan/Thanatos – Sounds about right from this perspective. Poor sods!
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March 27, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Michael
Down with Ach! Down with Ach! What? I’ve never been in a mob before. Also, I’m afraid of the Ach-ian mafia. Ach-oo.
March 31, 2008 at 8:32 am
Sanjana Hattotuwa
http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html is interesting reading in this regard.
SH
March 31, 2008 at 9:39 am
javajones
Sanjana – Thanks. Interesting, for sure!
March 31, 2008 at 11:02 am
Sanjana Hattotuwa
Though the submission at the end of the article that the those we all know on blogs in or on Sri Lanka choose to insult and engage in hate speech do so not because they want to be mean, but because they can’t help it really doesn’t cut it. They are vicious because they choose to be vicious.
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March 31, 2008 at 11:54 am
javajones
Sanjana – That was what a major part of the post had to do with – pondering on what it is that makes up this kind of cowardly, twisted mentality. Both Darwin and Pan had some interesting thoughts on what leads folk to end up this way.
The ach gang is particularly interesting, in that they gang up to spread their shit – collective cowardice?. It’s all like an ‘inside joke’ to them. How pathetic can they get?!
March 31, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Sanjana
Well I’m gonna interview the brains behind Ach anon, so I’ll pass on your question to him and see how he looks at it!
March 31, 2008 at 4:38 pm
javajones
I know how he looks at it. Wait for the rationale about keys and voting – except that most of the keys are with the group!
April 1, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Dili
I’m late to the party but that means I get to see where the good stuff is, also it means that the good stuff is over
I’m too new and dont draw enough traffic to see the amount of abuse you vets have seen. The few abusive comments I’ve gotten I’ve chalked up to overzealous beliefs and lack of an open mind. But all of them seem to have a need for someone to hear them. Hence the barking like a mad chihuahua.
April 2, 2008 at 7:58 am
javajones
Dili – It’s not the abuse attracted by personal posts I was referring to – rather the stuff like Groundviews, Indi and others attract due to differences of opinion or with some axe to grind with personalities. The achcharu scene is different – if you haven’t seen the trip they went on about Theena or the insults directed at RD (still happening), you may not understand.
Check out Sanjana’s links above.
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